From Malaysiakini's YOURSAY:
‘New M’sia is just rhetoric if we allow 1M’sia to become 2M’sias.’
T'ganu exco: Caning to educate public, not hurt the two women.
Anak Raja: Reading about the caning of the two women in Terengganu attempting same-sex relations makes me ashamed. Is this the real Islam? Where is the love and compassion decreed in the Quran?
Muslim women, you have to decide what to do. The states ruled by PAS – Kelantan and Terengganu – are economically poor. Why stay behind? Most of the men have moved out anyway to make a living.
Fairperson: Terengganu state exco Satiful Bahri Mamat says the punishment will “educate” the public to not commit ‘zina’ (illicit sex). What education?
You have already humiliated the two women and literally scarred them for life. The damage has been done. Why are these people so obsessed with making public what happens between two persons in private?
Clever Voter: So these men think they have done society a favour by caning these women. Such barbaric acts are unthinkable in the modern age. It's also hypocrisy at the highest level.
Who are they to tell the world they have every right to harm others for so-called offences they interpret as illicit sex? Indeed, they are the ones who should be punished for supporting corrupt leaders and practices, child marriage, and inhibiting access to proper education.
The wanton abuse of human rights is right at our doorstep. Yet the relevant ministries at the federal level chose to remain silent. Allowing this Taliban style of government at state level contradicts what the constitution stands for.
Relevant parties, including the rulers, shouldn’t need reminding that these are barbaric methods used not just to humiliate the two women, but inflict pain, and will only leave behind permanent scars.
The future looks bleak if we continue to kid ourselves with the rhetoric of ‘new Malaysia’.
Sinan Belawan: Where are Women, Family and Community Development Minister Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail and her deputy, Hannah Yeoh? Can we trust them to protect women's rights?
Lodestar: Even those who steal billions of ringgit are not caned in public. This is not just a physical punishment but also an exercise in humiliation.
The state should only be concerned with law and order, not prosecute moral offences that are victimless.
So it seems that paedophilia via child marriage is condoned in some states, but not the right of two consenting adults to have sex. And this is what they call "education of the public."
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‘New M’sia is just rhetoric if we allow 1M’sia to become 2M’sias.’
T'ganu exco: Caning to educate public, not hurt the two women.
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PAS' Khairuddin Aman Razali said public caning will ‘invite Allah’s blessings’ to Terengganu and suggested that the Joint Action Group for Gender Equality and Malaysian Bar should demand the implementation of Shariah caning in civil cases Picture by Saw Siow Feng |
Anak Raja: Reading about the caning of the two women in Terengganu attempting same-sex relations makes me ashamed. Is this the real Islam? Where is the love and compassion decreed in the Quran?
Muslim women, you have to decide what to do. The states ruled by PAS – Kelantan and Terengganu – are economically poor. Why stay behind? Most of the men have moved out anyway to make a living.
Fairperson: Terengganu state exco Satiful Bahri Mamat says the punishment will “educate” the public to not commit ‘zina’ (illicit sex). What education?
You have already humiliated the two women and literally scarred them for life. The damage has been done. Why are these people so obsessed with making public what happens between two persons in private?
Clever Voter: So these men think they have done society a favour by caning these women. Such barbaric acts are unthinkable in the modern age. It's also hypocrisy at the highest level.
Who are they to tell the world they have every right to harm others for so-called offences they interpret as illicit sex? Indeed, they are the ones who should be punished for supporting corrupt leaders and practices, child marriage, and inhibiting access to proper education.
The wanton abuse of human rights is right at our doorstep. Yet the relevant ministries at the federal level chose to remain silent. Allowing this Taliban style of government at state level contradicts what the constitution stands for.
Relevant parties, including the rulers, shouldn’t need reminding that these are barbaric methods used not just to humiliate the two women, but inflict pain, and will only leave behind permanent scars.
The future looks bleak if we continue to kid ourselves with the rhetoric of ‘new Malaysia’.
Sinan Belawan: Where are Women, Family and Community Development Minister Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail and her deputy, Hannah Yeoh? Can we trust them to protect women's rights?
Lodestar: Even those who steal billions of ringgit are not caned in public. This is not just a physical punishment but also an exercise in humiliation.
The state should only be concerned with law and order, not prosecute moral offences that are victimless.
So it seems that paedophilia via child marriage is condoned in some states, but not the right of two consenting adults to have sex. And this is what they call "education of the public."
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LGBT is haram for Muslims paedophilia? no comment |